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Should Kids Hang Out at Club Penguin?
Internet sites for tweens are booming, but are they safe? Is this what our kids should be doing?
"Mom, what's your email address?" my 8-year-old daughter Madison called from the computer one afternoon last spring. Thinking she was just sending me an email, I told her. Minutes later she was at my side begging me to check my email messages so she could finish registering for Club Penguin.
What I didn't realize then was that my daughter had homed in on a major tween Internet trend. I had a lot of questions.
Tweens on the Internet? As parents, we wonder if this is a good thing. What do kids do on sites like Club Penguin? Are these sites safe? Are our children being bombarded with advertising when they play? Do they have any value? Should our kids be playing with virtual friends? I turned to other Penguin parents and Anastasia Goodstein, author of Totally Wired: What Teens and Tweens Are Really Doing Online, for answers to these questions.
What is Club Penguin all about? Club Penguin is a virtual world where kids create an online persona, often called an avatar, in the form of a colored penguin. They waddle around the virtual penguin world playing games, chatting with other penguins and visiting their igloos, attending parties and earning points to buy puffle pets, penguin clothes and furnishings for their igloos.
The bigger picture is that Club Penguin is one of a new breed of online communities designed specifically for kids between 8 and 13 years old. These kids' communities have been called training grounds for virtual worlds like Second Life and social networking sites like MySpace, which are popular with teens and young adults. The terms of use require people who use these sites to be at least 13 years old. As pre-teens often want to do what teens are doing, it was only a matter of time before someone created similar Web destinations for the pre-teen set.
Tween sites are clearly a booming business. Disney recently paid Club Penguin's founders $350 million to purchase the site. The founders will continue to manage the site, and if they meet aggressive growth targets over the next few years, they will receive $350 million more, according to news reports. The Club Penguin Web site states that there are more than 4 million active penguins. Another virtual world, Nicktropolis, also claims over 4 million users, with thousands more signing up each day.
Are they safe? Club Penguin and other sites aimed at pre-teens put a lot of effort into keeping their sites safe for kids. Most sites require parents to give permission for their kids to access most of the site's features, and they offer varying degrees of parent control over kids' day-to-day use. Imbee.com, a tween social networking site, offers parents the ability to approve each post their children make and each friend request they receive. Some sites, like Webkinz.com and Club Penguin, let parents set their children's settings so that the kids can only use pre-written questions, comments and answers to communicate with others. Even when kids are not restricted to the pre-written chat, many kid-oriented sites, including Club Penguin and Nicktropolis, have filters set to exclude inappropriate words or personal information. Whyville.net requires kids to pass a test and get their "chat license" before they are allowed to chat with others. I took the test, and it wasn't easy.
These sites also have reporting systems kids can use to report inappropriate comments that somehow get past the filters. Club Penguin is moderated around the clock and kids can always click on the Moderator button present on the screen to report something. Whyville has different levels of safety tools kids can use, ranging from "silencing" someone so the child won't see or hear what the other user is saying to filing a 911 report, which is intended for reporting serious safety concerns. Whyville, however, is not moderated constantly and some inappropriate comments may slip in.
Goodstein said, "I definitely think they're safer [than sites not aimed at kids], but no site is 100% safe or not hackable. However, when the core audience is kids under 13, safety has to be a priority. They spend a lot of time, money and effort making these sites as safe as they can be."
The parents I talked to agreed that Club Penguin generally seems safe for their kids. Laura Epstein, the California mother of 9-year-old Leah, said, "It seems to be safe since they take on a penguin identity and the interactions seem to be fairly limited. I think they do a fairly good job of making interaction positive and limited."
Dana Oxford, a mom in Washington, limits her 6-year-old Penguin fan, Hap, to Club Penguin's Ultimate Safe Chat. This means Hap can only send messages using chat terms on the site, and he can only see what others say if they're also using Ultimate Safe Chat.
"It is definitely safe," Oxford said. "There's no way for him to give personal information."
Despite the apparent safety of many of these sites for kids, Goodstein warns there are precautions parents should take. Talk to your child about the Internet as a public space. "The challenge is that people can say they're different people, for example say they're kids if they're not kids," Goodstein says. Parents need to create an atmosphere where kids can tell them about problems they encounter online without the fear of the Internet being taken away, she says. "Parents should talk to kids about how to treat people online and emphasize the differences from real life. For example, photos can be spread quickly online and it is easier to be meaner. Technology puts distance [between a bully and a victim]."
Warn your child not to put personal information on the Web, ever. She recommends that "parents have kids listen to their gut if something makes them uncomfortable. Kids have to be able to talk to their parents about what was said and why it made them uncomfortable."
Understand that virtual interactions can be as hurtful as real ones. Despite all of the safeguards, it is possible for kids' feelings to be hurt on Club Penguin. The filters prevent kids from insulting each other in many ways, but my daughter said her feelings are hurt when she tries to talk to someone and they just ignore her.
Hap agreed. He said, "Sometimes I ask someone to be my buddy and they don't accept. That's fine — there are like 4000 people on Club Penguin and I had 97 buddies. The only bad thing that happens is if I ask them to be my buddy and they don't even say no, they don't even answer!"
Kids have even found a way to use the reporting process at Club Penguin to hurt others. Lorraine Woodruff-Long, the California mom of two Club Penguin users, said her kids were sometimes upset because other kids would threaten to report them and get them banned from the site. "One day someone was being mean to him and he was starting to write back. I said, 'What are you doing?' He said a person was being mean to him and threatening to have him banned, and I told him that doesn't mean it is OK for him to do it, too. The more I know about it, the more I realized I need to be more wary. I need to sit down and spend time with these sites. The kids are ahead of where I think they are."
Is it OK to make virtual friends? Parents often teach their children not to talk to strangers, but talking to people (or penguins) you don't know is one of the main activities on sites like Club Penguin. Does this send a mixed message?
Goodstein doesn't think this is a problem. She said, "If they are involved with [strangers] on a site that is explicitly for kids, it is the same as going to a playground where they play with kids they might not know. If they're on a site that is mixed, with kids and adults, then they have to be a lot more careful, listen to their gut and feel when something doesn't feel right."
Goodstein said that 7-, 8- and 9-year-olds mostly talk to penguins they don't know. "They just waddle around trying to talk to people, instead of being a real social network. For slightly older kids, Imbee may be more like a real social network. There you have friends that are mostly your friends in real life, but in Club Penguin, they're usually not quite old enough for real social networking."
Emily Fiorentino, an 8-year-old from Connecticut, confirms that on Club Penguin she generally just starts random conversations with people. "You only know their penguin name, color and costume," she said.
It is possible to meet your real friends on Club Penguin, if you know their penguin identities. Dennis Dobbyn from California, said his 11-year-old son Sean enjoys chatting with his real friends on Club Penguin, and Hap from Washington meets up with a real-life friend who lives in California on Club Penguin a couple of times a week. "We play hide and seek," he said excitedly. He described how buddies can find out which part of the site their friends are visiting by clicking on their profile, but you can hide within that page of the site by using camouflage. "I went into the underground pool and turned my penguin that same color. It was exactly the same color! The only way to find me was my beak!"
Do these sites promote too much commercialism? Some sites, like Whyville, have ads spread across the site. Others, like Webkinz, include promotions for their own products. Club Penguin is ad-free, although kids must pay around $6 per month for access to some of the popular features. A letter from Club Penguin's founders posted on the site states that they remain committed to maintaining their no-advertising policy, despite Disney's purchase of the site. That said, a penguin with mouse ears can already be spotted in several places around the site. Woodruff-Long said she wouldn't want her 8- and 10-year-old kids being bombarded with ads for Disney products.
"It would definitely bother me if they asked for stuff all the time when they were using Club Penguin," she said. "We watch limited TV, and now I can have reasoned discussions with them about advertising, but I really don't like it."
Almost all of the sites include ways for kids to earn points or virtual money and then spend it "buying" virtual items on the site. Oxford finds this aspect of Club Penguin to be positive for her son: "I like that he has 12 puffles and he really has to pay attention to them and feed them. He understands that you have to pay to feed them so they won't run away."
Goodstein says that earning virtual currency to buy things teaches kids valuable lessons about economics. However, she cautions parents to talk to their kids about the message some of these sites are sending and the goals of the companies — to make money.
Is there any benefit for kids in using these sites? Goodstein says kids can learn to socialize on kids' sites but in a much more controlled way than their older counterparts on MySpace.
"They are like the training wheels for socializing that is becoming so much a part of teenagers' lives," said Goodstein.
She also said that many sites promote learning, especially reading, writing and communication skills. "Kids are using their imaginations, and when they are creating an avatar, they are sort of beginning to experiment with identity, what they wear and what they want to look like. It is a virtual way of doing what we used to do when we'd pretend."
Some of the parents I spoke with aren't so sure.
"It's a tough call," said Epstein. "I lull myself into thinking it is good. Some of the games build timing skills and it is good for kids to have downtime. When I was a kid I would have been working on mazes or connect the dots." But Epstein said she did not think kids need to start training for MySpace at age 8 or 9.
Goodstein does caution that parents should limit the amount of time their children spend online. "Anything in excess is bad. Kids need to play in real life, and go outside. It is incumbent on parents to set limits and allow it as a treat maybe an hour a day."
What can you do if your child is hooked on Club Penguin? Yes, it happens. Some parents report that their kids cry when told to log off. Goodstein doesn't have too much sympathy for this problem. "Parents need to be really firm about how much time their kids can spend online. If they have a fit, that's too bad. You're the parents. Tell them to go outside, do something different. You need to push them into a new activity. They shouldn't be able to get hooked in the first place." She noted that the addictive quality of the gaming on some sites makes kids want to be on the computer all the time. It also makes it more important for parents to be sure they aren't.
Updated January 2008

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Comments From GreatSchools.net Users
06/3/2008:
"i think clb penguin is a safe place as my child always plays on it and you can have a safe chat one and do't have to buy it "
05/30/2008:
"I am concerned over the safety of my child's online choices. She likes Club Penquin, but I fear that it will become too commercial now that it is part of Disney. A friend suggested that we try Xivio.com because it has more safety features than Club Penguin. My daughter likes it more than Club Penguin and although she likes to visit the site frequently for the social networking aspect, she doesn't seem as addicted to it as she was with Club Penguin. I feel that she spends a reasonable amount of time on the Xivio site. "
03/10/2008:
"Cub penguin is very safe they block out all the swearing and they take out any (kids) who swear. So dont take your kids off. (Unless they swear.)"
02/19/2008:
"I'm thirteen and I am a member of Club Penguin. I think parents should chill out a little more. Club Penguin is totally safe! When kids are in Club Penguin it prevents them to be on other sites like MySpace. To be honest, I have a MySpace too, but I usually spend my time on club penguin more than I do on MySpace. "
02/15/2008:
"GReat article, this sounded too familiar. My daughter did the same thing in wanting my email address, my worry is that these sites might suggest to our children to set up their own email. Thank you."
02/11/2008:
"i agree this to this letter that you gave me -thank-you very much this is a very good note for parents and kids so they would understand."
02/6/2008:
"keep up the good work. these types of pieces are very relevant to the age group from elementary schools. This was informative and helpful. Thank you."
02/4/2008:
"Sorry, but I find little to no credibility in Kate Steinheimer's (the author of the article) quest to answer 'Should this be what our kids are doing?' and 'Should our kids be playing with virtual friends?'. She queries the parents of kids who are actively using Club Penguin. But what are the opinions of the parents who no longer allow their kids to use the site? Worse, Steinheimer 'interviews' Anastasia Goodstein, author of 'Totally Wired: What Teens and Tweens Are Really Doing Online'. Guess what? Goodstein is founder/CEO of YPulse.com, a marketing research firm that according to their website 'provides news, commentary and resources about commercial media for teens' and which states 'Ypulse.com reaches a highly influential audience of agency, brand and media executives as well as social marketers trying to reach youth.' Bottom line, Goodstein's livelihood hinges on her success in finding new ways to sell more stuff to kids through the internet, cell phones, teen magazines, and 'link it all together' so that the kids AND parents can't distinguish the marketing from the fun or 'on-line experience' as they say. Maybe Goodstein sincerely wants parents to pull the plug on the computer and herd the kids outside. She wants them to go tell the kids playing outside (who are enjoying physical activity and having 'real' versus 'virtual' social interactions) to go beg their parents for the latest Webkinz-type gimmick, or about how many 'friends' they made at Club Penguin. Powerful viral marketing, folks. 'I made 65 new penguin friends today, Billy! How many friends did you make while you were on the swingset? Only one? Too bad, I win!' Sorry penguin-addicted kid. You lost. Someday, I hope that you'll learn it takes more than a mouse-click to make a friend. The experience of having one real friend, for better or worse, beats an infinite number of shuffling, cutesy virtual internet spawn. If you really want to have fun, try hide and go seek. Outside. To the woman who said, 'It would definitely bother me if they asked for stuff all the time when they were using Club Penguin,' she said. 'We watch limited TV, and now I can have reasoned discussions with them about advertising, but I really don't like it.' It doesn't really matter if Club Penguin does or does not have advertising directly. The simple fact that your kids are using Club Penguin means that Disney's marketing is successful. When Disney comes out with the 'Club Penguin Movie', guess which kids will want to see it? When the penguin toy goes into the Happy Meal, guess who's kids want fast-food (or the themed birthday party, or the DVD, or the Nintendo game, or the whatever). If you believe that kids should be allowed at least SOME time on the computer to help with their technological literacy, read the comments below submitted by kids and parents supporting Club Penguin. Some should definitely be spending more time working on their literacy. Without the computer. Finally, my answer to 'Should our kids be playing with virtual friends?' Why? Aren't there better things for a kid to do with his or her REAL friends and family, especially on a rainy day? Speaking of better things to do...."
02/1/2008:
"I appreciate your help in our child education. i'm living in this country since last year ago ,so there are new things for me and my daugther and she has joined this club since last week. I found this article very important.Thank you. one more time."
01/30/2008:
"Thanks - I agree with your perceptions of the site - good information for new user parents. - Thanks!"
01/29/2008:
"Very helpful article. "
01/28/2008:
"I love Club Penguin! They do everything they can to help with problems. And every day the are coming out with new ways to make club penguin safe."
01/24/2008:
"I love club penguin. There is a lot of good games and my parents like it too. They say that as long as we keep the 30 minits time limit and the games are semi-educational we can play. They classify club penguin as semi-educational because of the money stuff. I have never heard anything inappropriet on CP and I have been on almost 2 years. I tottaly reccomend it if you have nothing to do on rainy days."
01/22/2008:
"I think Club penquin is really safe for children. My 9 year old daughter went to sign in and accidently singed her name as Sexi in stead of lexi and she was immediatly blocked. Thanks Brenda."
01/14/2008:
"I definitely think parents and kids should be exploring and talking about social networking sites together. Digital content is exploding and the ways information is both shared and created is undergoing a revolution. It is essential we help our children learn how to make good decisions as well as effectively and safely utilize digital resources. While game sites are fun, I think a big focus for both adults and young people when it comes to digital resources should be CREATING content as well as COLLABORATING. The website, free software program and social network Scratch (from MIT) is a great example of a program kids of any age can use to be creative, interact with others, and literally CREATE things: stories, games, and programs. This type of computer activity can be at a very different cognitive level than playing a game on Club Penguin or Webkinz: http://scatch.mit.edu As adults, parents and educators we need to step up to the challenges as well as opportunities available in our networked information environment. We hear a lot about dangers, but we need to hear about the opportunities too. Many of the best jobs in the future will go to those with good digital literacy skills as well as interpersonal and collaborative skills. I'm continuing to refine a presentation I'll share with parent groups at schools and churches here in Oklahoma later this month. What I have so far is on: http://teachdigital.pbwiki.com/internetsafety Thanks for sharing this article about these websites for tweens. I hope more parents will read it and have conversations with their kids about the issues and opportunities you highlight here as a result. Wesley Fryer Edmond, Oklahoma www.speedofcreativity.org"
01/7/2008:
"The real problem is that for most internet community sites, there aren't any reviews or debates such as this. These are the real sites that pose a problem, seeing that kid-friendly sites like Club Penguin are already heavily guarded to enhance your child's safety."
01/4/2008:
"Thank you very much for the information. My daughter is 6 and I like having this extra knowledge."
12/11/2007:
"I actually have an account with club penguin!Im in my late teen ages though! i think its very safe you cant type in numbers to give out where you live or your telephone number. you cant put in email addres or unappropite words! Your sentences get checked to make sure its allowed ! i think kids should get to make new friends not where they (MEET) them in person I have a lot of friends on clubpenguin aand barley see them again so my opinion its 99.9% SAFE :)!!!"
12/11/2007:
"My son is 9 years old. He has been a member of the club penguin website for a few months and I have absolutly no complaints this far. As it says above, there is a safe chat option so that the kids can only use certain phrases such as 'hello' or 'thats cool' 'Wanna be my friend'. I have never seen this boyfriend/girlfriend issue. My child has learned a lot in the few months he has been on. Social skills, reading, money managment, finances, computer skills and responsibility are all great topics. He reads a ton while he's there to and that can't hurt. I would be conscience of the enviroment as obviousally pedophiles and criminals can and will find a way to penetrate club penguin but for the most part, it's very safe. "
12/11/2007:
"It doesnt have ads for the disney products or anything and it is a good site and there even having kids donate virtual coins for the needy kids who dont have much and i know because i goo this site"
11/30/2007:
"club penguin is a game, and as long as your children are at a certain age to really understand online guests who are able to distinguish a good question from an uncomfortable question, there is nothing wrong with playing club penguin. My son has been playing since ten. now he like runescape. "
11/26/2007:
"My daughter and son share a member account on club penguin. from what I've seen this site is completely safe. there is absolutely no way to find out someone's personal info. there are tons of little penguin agents helping when a mod isn't there. know your kids know about on line dating before joining this site. there isnt anything explicit, but they will be asked to become a boyfriend/girlfriend. 5 stars club penguin!"
11/15/2007:
"I think its important for parents to realize that some of the 'penguins' on this site can be relatively older than others and I have found that there are instances of wanting to be someones boyfriend/girlfriend - regardless of the age. My 11 year old son has been approached on a few occassions by girls wanting to be his girlfriend- I told my son absolutley not!!! Having a girlfriend is a serious matter which should not be done online, let alone at his age. Parents beware...."
10/26/2007:
"Unfortunately, I found out that my children's friend had created e-mails for my children so that they could get more penguins without having to go through me. I knew of the one I created for them, and I was able to go through them to make sure nothing bad was going in, but they now have several other e-mails that I am just beginning to know about. Parents need to be aware of this new trend."
10/19/2007:
" What I didn't realize then was that my daughter had homed in on a major tween Internet trend. I had a lot of questions. Hello, I'm just giving a few comments about this article. First of all you really have to read this part of the article again. Tweens on the Internet? As parents, we wonder if this is a good thing. What do kids do on sites like Club Penguin? Are these sites safe? Are our children being bombarded with advertising when they play? Do they have any value? Should our kids be playing with virtual friends? I turned to other Penguin parents and Anastasia Goodstein, author of Totally Wired: What Teens and Tweens Are Really Doing Online, for answers to these questions. I mean Geez!!!! What Is your problem!? It Club Penguin for christs sake you cant say anything bad and it's filled with games for preschoolers and your asking if its safe?! I can understand if you would be scared that your 8 year old daughter was registering for myspace but for club penguin?! First repeat 'club penguin' over and over again and tell me if you relly think this is a site little kids shouldent be going on. All i'm saying is you overprotective parents really need to LAY OFF!!!!!"
10/19/2007:
"I appreciate having this information. I was looking into the new schools my children will be going to when they get to New York & saw the article about the Penguin Club. It has been helpful. One thing I hope will help those who detest advertising, especially on My Space...there is a site that allows you to creat albums or use others albums to block advertising. It just covers the ad so you don't see it. You see the pictures you chose instead. It is really easy to use & is wonderful! I can't remember the name of it right this minute, so will have to come back & post it when I find it."
10/17/2007:
"My 10 year old and my 13 year old love it. My daughter gets on the phone with her friends and plays games at the same time as well. She is limited to one hour of computer time a day and she always uses her time for Club Penguin. I was concern as well at first when she came home saying her frinds were on there. So I got onto her Penguin and started trying to see what it was all about. Funny thing... I got booted off for trying to see what it would let me do and what it wouldn't allow me to do. She didn't think it was funny... I just wanted to make sure she couldn't get that information past the filters. I will be the first to tell you I am very strick, won't allow them to watch things like sponge bob, rugrats, etc. so I can tell you I have found nothing on this site that has caused me concerns. Thanks Club Penguin for having a safe place to go. I went onto myspace the other day just to make sure my son hadn't gone on because it is off limits. I was shocked to see wh! at was going on there. I had 'heard' from TV what was on there but when you see some of your children's friends and their sites I was shocked! "
09/25/2007:
"I refuse to let my Daughter due to the 'Disney' take over. Disney has already burned me once. You see...I am a long time subscriber to XM (sattelite) radio. Disney purchaed a few channels from XM. Sadly I have to say it's more commercials then music. YES you heard me right, COMMERCIALS ON XM. The part that has me outraged is I'M PAYING FOR THEM. Originally the agreement was they were to continue the commercial free format. Sadly they didn't keep their word. Hopefully they don't find a similar loophole and ruin Club Penguin in the same way."
09/4/2007:
"I like the club penguin experience. I liked the fact that my 8 year old son khayri loved to interact with other children(penguins).He was able to meet children from all over over the world! The down side for me is he takes it way to serious.When some penguins don't come to his igloo he gets really upset. I remind him it is just a game and he is supposed to be having fun! "
09/4/2007:
"Both my daughters are on Club Penguin. They have managed to bridge the 'gap' between the cyber world and the real world. They will call their 'real' friends and they will log on. Then they hang out with eachothers penguins, play games, play 'hide and seek' on the website. So they have got a nice balance between reality and cyberworld. I enjoy watching them play games, and surf with their penguins and puffles. Overall, the site is good I feel. My girls like it because they feel it is more kid driven, they have control over behaviors that other penguins are doing. If someone is inappropriate at all they can report the behavior. It gives them a feeling that they are in control of their situation. We have talked extensively about the internet and all of the potential issues with it. However, Club Penguin isn't the only thing they do. They are into sports, school, music etc. So they have a well rounded life outside Club Penguin, they only use it when their homework o! r chores are done. Overall its a great site for kids, parents have to monitor their kids of course. The problem really arises when we as parents start using websites or tv as surrogate babysitters to entertain our kids. Other than that I would highly recommend it!"
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